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you

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my name is chase Klinsky and I presented

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here at the Ozark Mountain UFO

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conference talk about the elongated

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skulls of Peru the topic of these skulls

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has been really a huge mystery for many

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many decades that have captured the

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imagination of a lot of researchers and

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investigations and we were really

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excited about being able to go down to

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Peru and put hands on and boots on the

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ground investigating these anomalous

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skulls probably my favorite thing about

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the investigation is the fact that we

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had professional equipment with us and

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for the first time the scientific

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protocols the permissions from the

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Ministry of Culture as well as all the

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supplies we needed for proper DNA

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analysis this is the first time it's

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never been done and this is important in

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1927

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Tilo was an archaeologist and one of the

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most noted found these incredible

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bundles of mummies in a necropolis near

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pisco and this was a huge discovery what

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was shocking about what he was

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uncovering was they were different than

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the indigenous mummies and the

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indigenous peoples of Peru that had been

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discovered in the past they were buried

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in bundles and when they were unwrapped

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they discovered they were a little

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taller than the indigenous peoples as

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well as red hair and most of them had

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these enormous elongated skulls the

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investigation included hands-on

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examination and deep scrutiny into some

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of the anomalies of the skulls so we

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understand that elongated skulls and the

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cranial deformation and cradle boarding

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was a practice done in Peru so the

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elongated skulls are not as unusual but

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was a small percentage of skulls that

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presented these characteristics that

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were completely divergent from the other

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skulls and human skulls example of our

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inventory list of the skulls we're most

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interested in where the skulls with the

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larger than normal cranial capacity the

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red hair definitely the lack of a

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sagittal suture and we were most

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interested in with the foramen magnum

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that is the hole near the occipital

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plate where your spinal column goes into

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and it's really the base of the body we

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notice on some of the skulls that this

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foramen magnum was located closer to the

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back of the head so this may have made a

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big impact on part of our theory because

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you can't this change doesn't happen

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with manual manipulation this change can

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only be a birthright and it's different

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and with the elongated skull and the

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foramen magnum the lack of the sagittal

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suture and the larger capacity really

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points to something that is unusual and

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we wondered if this was maybe a hybrid

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race or even a different race that the

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baracus people emulated and move forward

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basically with they just were not

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indigenous these components of these

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skulls are very very significant so

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these were the inventories that we were

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looking for and for every 300 350 skulls

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we look at we'd find one or two that had

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all of the anomalies and these were the

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skulls that were selected for DNA

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sampling it was extraordinary process

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being down there we we basically had to

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plan

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everything in the United States before

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we even got to Peru a lot of the

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supplies we needed and the processes

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that we had to take for our DNA samples

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to not only be worthy and ready for

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analysis but also to be probative at the

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end we met the criteria of the Institute

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of justice as well as a National

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Institute of Science and Technology and

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these are the protocols that led us into

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exactly how we were going to do this one

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of the first things we did in the

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process was to set up a sterile area and

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this was a very small place because we

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needed lack of access once we put up the

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tape as a perimeter the only personnel

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or the people allowed in this place

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where the investigators and only in

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clean suits people weren't allowed to

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come in and out and our work space was

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confined in movement so we weren't

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walking around putting up dust that

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could possibly contaminate the osteology

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powder we were extracting so it was it

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was an egregious process it was

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difficult and it was challenging on many

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levels part of even planning to go to

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Peru with this equipment was also how

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are we going to have the samples taken

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out in other words we had to follow

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state and federal postal codes we had to

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follow Border Patrol customs there is a

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long list of people that we had to make

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sure that their rules and policies and

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the organizations and administrations

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that they were responsible for in

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getting these samples back home were all

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satisfied it was difficult but it was

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worth every step and we took not one

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shortcut or took out one level of that

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process the result of this was every

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sample that we submitted was viable for

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testing with no contamination that was a

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huge huge win for us

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especially when we were dealing with

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skulls that had been handled probably a

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thousand times so by digging into the

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bone itself and extracting the osteology

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material in the middle and closer to the

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place where it couldn't be touched or

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contaminated we were able to grab worthy

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DNA samples the results were amazing and

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I think part of this big reveal or the

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big shocking bomb that went off for a

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lack of a better word was because the

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majority of the skulls the DNA their

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origins came from the Middle East this

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means this is not an indigenous people

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of Peru they were migrants and of course

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the dating process goes back 500 years

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before it was pre-columbian the

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migration was almost impossible

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according to the scientific standards of

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today so how did they get there well it

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isn't just about the DNA testing it's

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about also understanding that the

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textiles that are found with the skulls

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are so advanced it's you know the loom

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wasn't supposed to be available at this

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time and yet the detail we can barely

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reproduce today by hand the pottery and

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some of the artifacts and we have to

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remember the megalithic structures the

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cyclopean architecture all over Peru and

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Bolivia in places such as Machu Picchu

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and Tijuana puma punku where did this

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advanced engineering come from because

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one thing's very clear when you're there

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and studying some of the anomalies of

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these megalithic structures it is clear

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that this is not done with chicken bones

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and copper tools there was an

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intelligence behind this this was an

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operating sophisticated society that

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understood sacred geometry they

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hood astrology of the astronomy the

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stars the heavens and of course the oral

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culture is that these beings came from

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the heavens or they came from the stars

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so with all of this in play and evidence

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of this advanced artifacts and this

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advanced culture and then we're finding

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these skulls that are different than the

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other elongated skulls that are clearly

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manually manipulated it brings us to a

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theory of were these beings hybrids or

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were these beings possibly

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extraterrestrials could they be

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supernaturals or biblical such as angels

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so it's really quite intriguing but we

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have to consider the phenotype is you

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bring in the environment and the clues

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we get from the evidence of their

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culture and we put that with the

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elongated skulls that are different and

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we wonder if this is one of the reasons

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that emulation from the rest of the

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population became very popular to do

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because the one thing we also understand

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about elongated skulls only the Royals

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were allowed to do this or the free

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people the slaves were not allowed to

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elongate their skulls which is why we

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continue to find normal human skulls

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skulls that are elongated but clearly

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manipulated and then there's a small

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percentage that we're still trying to

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determine who they were and where did

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they come from the smaller percentage

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were clearly the DNA came back coming

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from the Middle East the majority of

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them and that fits right into the

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hypothesis of LA Marzulli that this was

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definitely the divergent race of giants

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that were exiled basically by Joshua and

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that story can be read in the Torah it

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could be a story or it can be viewed as

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historic

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document if you view some of these older

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texts such as the Book of Enoch or you

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know the Torah as historical text it's

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actually very surprising the trail of

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evidence we find behind this everything

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from you know the great deluge you know

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the the great flood to the this hybrid

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being on this earth that these older

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texts call giants the land bridge is the

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standard you know that and this new

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discovery challenges that as the only

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theory so the the bare Aegean land only

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theory is is no longer even plausible

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and this isn't this isn't anyone but the

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DNA talking this is a scientific test

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that has been blind studied and

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duplicated and you know science doesn't

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care what we believe the tests are real

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and the scrutiny so we're just in the

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beginning stages we had 58 samples

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tested that is more than admissible

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collection and comparison and a study

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group however we'd love to get back down

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there the the carbon dating is a little

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more difficult and we only have so much

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money

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there has been tens of thousands if not

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hundreds of thousands of dollars already

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invested from when LA started almost six

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years ago into today and we just don't

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have unlimited funding unfortunately so

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we're very choosy on what skulls and our

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our best evidence forward and there was

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a lot of scrutiny and a lot of

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professional discussion and exactly how

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we needed to perform these collections

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because honestly we knew we only had one

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shot since this is you know kind of our

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pilot program

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there's abs

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enough evidence to challenge the

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scientific normal but we also have

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enough to further us studies and to go

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back and look deeper grab more DNA it'd

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be nice to have access to maybe not just

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the skull but you know to measure the

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bodies which are often not with the head

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or the skulls so we really are planning

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on going back a lot of study needs to

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still be done and I think it's important

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to remind everyone that I'm not saying

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this LA and the team

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we're not Proclamation we're not trying

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to convince anybody the science did it

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for us

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the science is certain and again you

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know it doesn't believe what we doesn't

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care what we believe so for us it has to

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be done right done once and we're ready

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to go forward we're excited about it

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there's been a few changes from the last

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time I was here in Ozark

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and there are some things that haven't

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changed but a couple of the things that

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have changed was I have become a

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registered lobbyist for the UFO field

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and without knowing at the time that I

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was also going to be soon moving to

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Washington DC with my husband and it

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turned out to be one of the biggest

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blessings for a lot of reasons but

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mostly when we moved there this is just

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as all of this was breaking about a tip

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and the Pentagon and you know the unit

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that was investigating UFOs and I

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couldn't have been in a better place at

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a better time the lobbying effort that

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I'm going forward with is to ask about

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more programming Louise Elizondo the

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head of this UFO unit for a lack of a

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better word basically has said that he

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doesn't believe and he is certain that

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this program has not ended

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and I really would like to know more

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about that and that's what I'm pushing

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forward in DC I'd like to know where the

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funding is who's running it does it

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continue to be contracted through the

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Defense Intelligence Agency to the

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Pentagon you know how is this all

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working and I also want to maintain

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being an ombudsman for you know a lot of

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our witnesses that may need to know if

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there's still some documents or forms

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that we can have released and

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Declassified that could better prove

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their case or it could even satisfy

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their knowledge or wondering you know

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for decades you know was this real that

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I saw and of course any kind of proof to

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them means everything so this is really

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what I'm doing that my objective in DC

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is to really work within the system

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which DC is crazy they have their own

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set of rules and I just realized that as

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a UFO community we have picketed the

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White House we have petitioned the White

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House and we've had two very important

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citizens hearing on disclosure and we're

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no further along than we would have been

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I believe these were important things

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that had happened and it may have pushed

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us maybe a little closer to

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understanding but without our lawmakers

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and the people that are actually

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responsible for declassifying

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information or the people that are

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responsible for acknowledging dark

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programs and the funding for that I just

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don't think we're going to get full

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disclosure why would they we demand full

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disclosure we have to remember what

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we're asking for we're asking for over

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70 years of information of a cover-up

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perpetrated on the citizens of the

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United States who's gonna want to admit

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that and come out on that with all the

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other drama going on and yet part of

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what I like to pursue and educate in DC

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and with the Senate in the house is

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basically the

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at Chile openly admits and investigates

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UFOs through their government they talk

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about it in newspaper in the media and

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with the public so does France I don't

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see the public having a meltdown they

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can handle it

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they're curious and I think they feel a

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little more comforted that the

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government is actively involved and

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notices and cares about these unknown

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objects in their airspace so I think

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it's time that the United States and

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Europe understands it's time it's time

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to admit that you guys see it too you

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acknowledge it's real whether they can

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answer what it is or not we don't care